Everything You Need to Know About the AltMill 4×8

We’re excited to share the next member of the AltMill family with the AltMill 4×8. This has been a big collective effort to bring a well thought out, productive and affordable full format CNC machine to the hobby market. 

The AltMill 4×8 launches for pre-order on Oct 29th. Stay tuned on our email list, blog and social media for more info. We will have a series of informative videos coming out during pre-order, including an in depth feature from our engineers. Plus, we have a Live Stream Q&A with our engineers scheduled for Thursday, November 6, 7pm to 8:30pm.

What is the AltMill 4×8?

AltMill 4x8 Product Shot
AltMill 4×8 Rendering

Our goal for the AltMill platform was to find the best balance between cost and performance, offering production level productivity at a price point affordable to beginners and hobbyists. The 4×8 variant takes this to the next step, allowing users to process full 4ft x 8ft sheet materials. 

The AltMill 4×8 has some similarities with the 2×4 and 4×4 sizes, but uses redesigned components to extend the Y axis travel to just over 8ft. The fundamental design of the original AltMill was scaled up to achieve high performance with a larger working area, including increased Z-axis travel and clearance.

The 4×8 format is especially important as it represents one of the most standard sizes used in professional and industrial shops, for most materials like plywood, MDF and plastics. We expect more users to focus on building a business and scaling up their work for making money with this type of machine.

Who is the AltMill 4×8 for?

The AltMill 4×8 was designed at a price point that makes it accessible to the hobbyist and prosumer user, but it has the rigidity and precision capabilities that align with production and industrial focused machines. This makes it suitable for people who are intermediate or advanced hobby CNCers intending to scale into a business; or people who are already running a business and want to supplement or augment their existing production capacity. Entry level hobbyists will need to undergo a learning curve, but luckily we have year-round support and industry-leading resources to guide users on their journey. Learn more here.

Differences Between Industrial Machines & the AltMill 4×8

Software & Programming

For the most part, the CAM processes for both types of machines remain identical. Any CAM software you use for industrial machines can be used with the AltMill. Some industrial machines have more advanced software features on the CAM side, such as version control, managing stock of materials, and distributing jobs between multiple machines. Some software may need specific machines to do these functions, whereas some software is machine agonistic. These are advanced features found on very, very high production machines.

For controlling and sending gCode to your machine, some industrial machines use a custom interface, while some use a third party interface. Common ones include UCCNC, Centroid Acorn and Mach 3. 

We offer official support for the AltMill with gSender, our free, actively developed, and powerful gCode sending software. If you’ve already used one of our other machines or used your machine with our software, you’ll already be familiar with it. 

Speed

We’ve seen a pretty wide range of advertised speeds in the industrial machine space, with rapids from a few hundred to thousands of inches per minute. There are a few practical limitations to speed. First is bit deflection. In the industrial machine, the deflection of the end mill plays the largest role in the accuracy of the cut. This is a little bit different compared to the hobby space, where deflection of the structure of the machine generally plays a bigger role. Second is material or chipload limitations, or the amount of material the end mill can pull out based on the rotational speed of the bit and travel within the material.

The productivity of a machine is also dependent on the acceleration settings. Sort of like how a drag car might go faster in a straight line, but it can’t take corners as fast as an F1 car. Machines are the same. An industrial machine may not complete a job much more quickly than a hobby CNC in practice in some cases, for projects that require a lot of acceleration and deceleration. 

In my opinion, it’s important for customers to consider unit economics. If an AltMill costs 5x less than an industrial unit, but cuts at half the speed, then getting two AltMills might make more sense than one industrial machine.

Cost

We generally would consider 4×8 machines under $15,000 to be in the hobby range, whereas industrial machines are generally above $15,000 and can run hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

There are some industrial style CNC machines that can cost much less, typically built in China, but this generally doesn’t take into account the cost of shipping and importation, setup or modifications to work in North America which can cost more than the machine itself.

Buying Experience

Most industrial machines don’t have a single price and require the buyer to get a quote. This makes the buying process longer and harder for the average buyer to cross shop or compare pricing.

Our goal has always been to make pricing as transparent as possible. Pricing for all products are listed on the website, and shipping quotes can be automatically generated in the cart. 

Shipping

Industrial CNCs almost always need to be shipped by freight. Depending on where you’re located, it can cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in cost to be able to get it into your shop. Additionally, you will likely need to have some method, such as a loading dock or forklift, to be able to unload and move your machine, which adds to the cost.

The AltMill on the other hand comes in a series of 6-7 boxes, which all get shipped by courier, and can be delivered to almost any resident or shop in the world. We estimate that the shipping cost for most parts of the US and Canada to be around $300-500 USD.

AltMill 4×8 Base Machine Packaging

Weight

As we mentioned before, the weight of the machine impacts the shipping cost and acceleration settings. Another factor to consider is the ability for the user to relocate the machine. Industrial machines weighing thousands of pounds require special equipment to move, whether it be around the shop or to a different location. Additionally, many industrial machines need a special pad or mounting to the ground for stability and safety reasons. This can cost a few thousand dollars to install if it doesn’t exist in a shop yet.

The upside of having a heavier machine is that it absorbs vibrations, which means that cuts can come out smoother and with less chatter. However, a heavier machine also requires more energy for it to move its axes. This means larger motors, bearings, and other hardware, offsetting some of the benefits of having a heavier frame.

The AltMill 4×8 weighs several hundred pounds and simply uses levelling feet to work with the typical shop or garage. This makes it easier to move around and ship. Although it may not have as much vibration dampening capacity, we believe that it provides more than enough rigidity to get clean and accurate cuts. It’s important to note that the AltMill is designed for cutting woods and plastics primarily, which is considered a fairly soft material.

Features

There are a lot of features that are found with both hobby and industrial machines, but are usually more common or standard on industrial machines. For example, automatic toolchangers and vacuum tables and hold downs are generally more common options that are built in mind for the system. 

At the moment, the AltMill ecosystem does not have every feature to match industrial systems. Some of these features can be added with 3rd party kits from other manufacturers. That being said, we’ll likely work on new features, especially for the 4×8 machines, since we expect more customers to be production focused as time goes on.

Power Requirements

The larger the machines are, the larger their power requirements typically are as well. With the AltMill, the machine itself can run off 110V power from your outlet, but we expect a lot, if not most customers will want a 220V spindle as the 110V spindles may be underpowered. If speed is not your concern and you don’t mind running your machine slower, while being able to not need any additional electrical work, the AltMill is still a great option for a budget friendly 4×8.

Because it’s expected for industrial machines to be used in industrial settings, which typically have access to 220V and even 3 phase power, industrial machines likely will use higher power input options that typical hobbyists don’t have in a home shop or similar. 

Maintenance

The more expensive and complicated a machine gets, the more likely it is to require more expensive maintenance. At minimum, all machines need proper lubrication on all moving components including the linear motion systems, power transmission, and bearings. Industrial machines may require service by a technician or specialist for maintenance and repairs.

Maintenance on the AltMill on the other hand is designed to be done by the user, which means that it can be done without the need to schedule a service. Additionally, parts for replacement are relatively inexpensive. Because there is a self assembly portion of the machine, users also get an opportunity to understand the workings of their machine better.

Engineering

The engineering of the 4×8 combines development and innovations from the other AltMill versions and adds on top of it.

Linear Rail, Rack and Rail Coupling

One of the main challenges of bringing a 4×8 form factor machine to market is getting it to the end user. Simply put, limitations to the size and weight of packages shipped through courier cannot allow linear motion components used in the Y axis to be shipped in a single piece, unlike with the 2×4 and 4×4 machines. This means that these components need to be aligned and coupled together by the user. A significant amount of engineering was done to ensure the smooth and accurate coupling of these components.

Some designs and innovations in this space include developing:

  • A special bracket and process for joining the two lengths
  • Adjusting the spacing between linear motion parts and tolerancing to reduce the impact of gaps in between components
  • An easy to follow process to reduce assembly error 
Easy assembly identical tables halves, joined together

Rack and Pinion Engineering

A big debate when it comes to choosing rack and pinion versus ball screw has revolved (haha) around the accuracy and precision differences between both tools. While ball screws can generally achieve higher precision, ball screws come with several downsides that make them less accurate over longer distances.

First is that a longer ball screw can flex more easily. Since the ball screw is only secured at each end, it means that it can bend from cutting forces. This also can be exacerbated with any whipping that happens, which can introduce vibrations and limit the speed of which the machine can move.

Rack and pinion on the other hand is mounted along the length of the rack. This means that there is much less flex in the system. 

Additionally, ball screws cannot be joined together. Due to shipping limitations, the Y-axis parts must be separated and shipped in segments. Since racks can be butted together to make longer racks, this is not a problem with rack and pinion. 

It’s also important to note that the theoretical differences between rack and pinion are more relevant in very high precision applications such as commercial vertical machining centers, and less so in the application of CNC routers, where your material and cutting tool is more likely to influence the accuracy of your parts.

Wear and Hardness Testing

We have conducted a significant amount of testing and research to ensure a high degree of longevity of the rack and pinon system. Much of this came down to understanding the effects of hardness between the rack and pinon. We’ve explored many aspects of the materials used for the rack and pinion including:

  • Post processing the parts including nitriding and heat treatment
  • Working with different alloys
  • Adjusting the gear profiles
  • Long term testing of the use of different lubrication
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Early prototype pinion sample showing wear during extensive testing

Pinion Tensioning System

To ensure proper meshing of the pinion to the rack, we’ve also developed our own pinion tensioning system, which allows for the pinion to have the proper preload for eliminating backlash against the rack and adjusts for wear over time. This also allows for slight misalignments and tolerances in the machine and assembly process.

Gearing

To ensure high levels of precision, the motors are geared down to increase torque and increase resolution of the motor. We found that stepper motors also have a small amount of “elasticity”, which means that when they are held stationary, they can turn very slightly when a load is applied. Given the lower friction and higher distance to rotation ratio, this effect makes a bigger impact to the precision of the machine position while it is stationary. By gearing the motor down approximately 5:1, it effectively reduces the impact of “elasticity” as well.

Spindle options

The AltMill 4×8 will work with 1.5KW, 2.2KW ER20 spindles,, and our up and coming ATC spindle and natively support a toolchanger. 1.5KW and 2.2KW spindles are identical to the ones used on the 2×4 and 4×4 except with a longer spindle cable.

ATC

For those who don’t know, we have been actively working on an ATC spindle. We’re wrapping up development and production, but here’s some details to share before we do a full announcement:

  • Price: 2500USD-3000USD
  • ISO20 toolholders with ER20 collets
  • Capable of expansion up to 12 slots/tools
  • 220V, 2.2KW
  • Air-cooled via low-noise electric fan

Users must provide an air compressor and dryer (such as a desiccant dryer). The ATC has been developed specially to be compatible with most consumer grade compressors (around $300).

ATC Spindle Rendering
ATC Tool Rack Rendering

Our ATci is specially developed as one of the most integrated, advanced, and beginner friendly ATC systems, with features including:

  • Plug and play operation, with native integration with gSender allowing easy re-mapping/selection of tools for a given job
  • Advanced safety features, including integrated: pressure sensing; temperature monitoring; tool in spindle check; and tool in rack sensing to monitor the state of the spindle at all times
  • Easy to remove toolrack to allow users to switch to allow passthrough/tiling operations
  • Designed for quietness. Low noise cooling fans and air seal that turns off when not in operation

We are expecting to do a full announcement and launch in November.

Production Schedule

Batch 1

We are building approximately 150 AltMill 4×8 in the first batch. We expect units from this batch to start shipping mid-Feb to early March 2026. 

Pricing

Pricing for the AltMill 4×8 without a spindle will start at $7,490USD/$10,390CAD. Spindles can be purchased and configured to the user’s needs and will have different pricings.

Shipping will vary based on location, but customers should expect to pay between $300-500USD in shipping within North America.

FAQs

How much do I need to pay upfront?

A full, 100% payment for the AltMill 4×8 is required to hold your place in line. Customers may cancel and get a full refund for their machine anytime before their machine ships.

Will there be any upgrade path to a 4×8 from a 2×4 or a 4×4?

It is under consideration but it will not be a priority for us to provide an upgrade path. First, given that so many additional new components are needed to go to a 4×8, the cost difference between the upgrade kit and the full kit will not be that significant. Additionally, there is a significant overhead cost to do version tracking and ensure compatibility between machine versions that will add to the cost of the kit. It’s likely that it will be more cost effective and reduce waste if customers sell their existing machines and order a full machine. 

Eventually we will have parts available for purchase which allows us to pave the way for a potential modification or upgrade path, but this will not be available until later next year.

Are you going to make a 5x10ft AltMill?

Not until we get the 4x8ft machines out the door first. But if we get enough interest or demand, we may consider it.

Will the AltMill 4×8 work with an ATC?

We expect to have our ATC system available for pre-order closer to the end of the year. However, the ATC system will be compatible with all AltMill variants and will ship around the same time as the first AltMill 4x8s start shipping.

If you’re ordering an AltMIll 4×8 before all of the spindles are available, we recommend placing your order for one closer to when your machine is slated to ship.

What are the power requirements of the AltMill 4×8?

All AltMills use a 110VAC, 48VDC 10A power supply, consuming up to 500 watts. The power supply comes with a North American Standard Type B NEMA 5-15P plug.

Users will also need to account for power use from the spindle, which have separate specifications.

How big is the AltMill 4×8?

The footprint of the AltMill is approximately 114″ long x 66” wide, and over 66” tall (when including spindle height).

October 2025 Production Updates

Initial assembly of the AltMill 4×8

We have another action packed month to share.

Removal of the US De Minimis Exemption

If you’ve been following the news, especially if you’re from the US, the exemption that previously allowed for products entering into the US under $800USD to pass without customs or duties has been abolished. This has caused disruptions in the shipping industry, with new rules being enforced for packages entering into the US.

With much of our products being produced in Canada, we have already certified our products under USMCA/CUSMA, which allows for products from Canada going into the US to be shipped duty free. This means that for the most part, our US customers will be unaffected by these changes. However, we have already removed the ability for US customers to purchase certain items, namely t-shirts and routers, to be bought individually since they do not comply with the USCMA trade agreement.

Due to the changes, Canada Post/USPS shipments going to the US have been suspended due to the need for shipments having to be cleared and duties paid before they enter the US. It will take us some time to implement this system. Instead, US customers currently are only able to ship their products through UPS. Due to our longstanding relationship with UPS, we have been working closely with them to reduce errors and issues with shipping, as well as continue to comply with changing regulations.

It should be noted and expected that shipping delays and errors are more susceptible to happen across all shipping carriers, due to ongoing changes with US regulations. We’ve had a more than normal number of shipments get returned or missing than usual.

Floor Removal and Production Space Shuffling

The past year has been pretty crazy in getting things organized for inventory and production. We’ve been using offsite warehousing to help store inventory, and getting things into our production space for assembly and shipping. To add some more space, we’ve taken out the old flooring used for power and HVAC. This means that we can increase the load capacity on the group and use more high racking and lifters to keep inventory.

LongMill MK2.5 Pricing Changes

We have some pricing changes coming down the pipeline!

Check out our new post for more info

AltMill 2×4 and 4×4 Production

Production for 2×4 and 4×4 has moved very quickly and we have pretty much cleared the queue, with some orders shipping in less than one week. We are now waiting on Batch 6 parts to arrive, and we expect the queue to fluctuate, but remain relatively short moving forward.

While most shipments are shipping much quicker than 5-7 weeks, we are keeping this estimate in place as we expect some slowdown in shipping while we shuffle around our production space.

AltMill 4×8 Development

The AltMill 4×8 launches Oct 29th!

AltMill 4×8 Render

In other news, lot of progress continues to happen in AltMill 4×8 development, more focus being put on:

  • Long term wear testing on the rack and pinion system
  • Improving the assembly process and structural rigidity of the base/table
  • Demo projects with our prototype machines.

We’ve now built two full prototype machines, and we are expecting to have some go to beta testers shortly.

New Endmills for the AltMill Now On the Store

Bigger machines and bigger spindles means we need bigger bits! We’ve added more end mills to our store. Check out all the new bits at the link below.

https://sienci.com/product-category/end-mills-bits/new-2025

gControl Panel Computer

gControl Panel Computers have been selling more quickly than we expected and we are currently out of stock. We are waiting on new stock to arrive and expect it to arrive in early November.

I should note that the new version of the gControl will come with a slightly upgraded processor (N150). The older chip, the N100, is expected to be phased out over time, so we’ve gone ahead with having the next batch use the new chip. This new chip is slightly more expensive as well, so expect a small price bump.

For more info, please check out the article: gControl N150 Update.

Automatic Tool Changer

Automatic Tool Changer development continues on at lightning speed. Here’s a cool new update for gSender and ATC integration, which will show different tool path colours based on which tool is being used.

A couple of notable parts of development include:

  • Stress testing the cooling system
  • Toolsensing system

Certified VFDs

As we discussed in our previous updates, we have been working on building our first batch of certified VFDs. We’re excited. We have now shipped the replacement VFDs to Canadian customers who have been waiting, and we have started taking orders for new customers. The new batch of VFD with certification is expected to ship in Jan 2026. In the meantime, customers outside of Canada will still be able to order our regular line of VFDs and spindles.

While certified VFDs are only being sold to Canadian customers at the moment, we are planning to change over to this design completely once the remaining VFDs for the US market have been sold out.

Clear-Cut Dust Shoe

Clear Cut Dust Shoe
Clear Cut Dust Shoe

Dust shoes go through a lot of abuse. While 3D printing has allowed us to scale up our dust shoe production quickly and make changes on the fly, 3D printed material isn’t the most durable. We are updating our 80mm dust shoe with our own, polycarbonate dust shoe.

Not only is polycarbonate stronger, the fact that it’s transparent allows users to see dust going through the dust shoe more easily and see how the bit is cutting.

Additionally, the new latching system makes it much easier to take the new dust shoe on and off the spindle, and the new magnet bristle holding section makes it much easier to remove for tool changes.

New spindle kits will start to ship with the new dust shoe soon, and we will start taking order for the new shoe soon as well. Early November is the estimated sale date of dust shoes as single items, and they will cost approx. $95 CAD.

gControl N150 Update

Hey everyone, we have a small update to share for the gControl. New gControl computers will start shipping with the latest N150 processor. This comes with a small performance bump over the previous N100 processor, as well as a small price bump. This article explains the changes below.

Future supply chain considerations

The N100 chip was first launched in the first quarter of 2023, making it just over 2 years old at the time of writing. In the modern era, this still makes the N100 a pretty new chip. The N150 on the other hand, was released just a few months ago, in the first quarter of 2025. From discussions with our manufacturers, Intel is working to discontinue the N100 in favour of the N150 in the longer term, which has caused the price of the N100 to increase, and for the N150 to only be a few dollars more than the N100 (after the price increase.) We are anticipating that pricing availability for the N100 to continue to be volatile as it becomes discontinued in favor of the N150, so we have decided to move over to having the N150 processor in computers in our latest batch. 

Unfortunately, the pricing for both the N100 and N150 have both increased, which means that we are increasing the price of the gControl computer to accommodate this change.

N100 vs N150

Overall, with the architecture between N100 and N150 being nearly identical, differences are minor as well. Users may see a 5-10% general improvement in performance, due to the ability to boost to slightly higher clock speeds. (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6304vs5157/Intel-N150-vs-Intel-N100)

In practice, users will not notice a significant change between the processors, and computer assembly and form factor will remain the same.

External power supply

In the previous generation of computers, the power supply for the computers were placed inside the computer. N150 computers will now come with an external power supply over an internal one for two reasons. 

First, is to reduce the cooling needs of the computer. Moving one of the heat generating components outside of the case will allow the computer to run cooler, which is especially difficult in a fanless system. We believe this will help the overall performance of the computer by reducing the chance of thermal throttling, where the computer will reduce its performance by reducing the speed of the processor.

Second, is to better comply with EU standards for safety compliance. Having a certified power supply used externally is considered “safer” and limits the chance for issues with shipping computers to this market. Users will get a power supply that plugs into a DC port, rather than the AC cable previously. Otherwise, the use and assembly of the computer remains identical.

Future of gControl?

To preface this section, we discuss some of the aims and goals for the gControl project here: https://sienci.com/2024/10/17/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-gcontrol-panel-computer/

One of the main reasons we went with a Windows based industrial computer with this version of gControl was largely due to the power requirements to have the graphics interface of gSender, as well as limitations of graphics driver support. However, we do have to acknowledge that one of the biggest limitations to offering a lower cost option is how we can optimize gSender for a lower powered device. 

Price changes

Pricing for the gControl Panel Computer will be updated to $459USD and $619CAD. 

LongMill Pricing Changes and Plans for the Future

A lot of things are going on at Sienci Labs, and it’s time to talk about what the future looks like for the LongMill product line.

As you might know, the goal for the LongMill was to build an entry level, hobby-focused CNC machine with these characteristics:

  • Price affordably
  • Features that both beginner and experienced users wanted
  • Large enough to do a wide variety of useful projects

A shift in the entry level market

When the LongMill first came out as a Kickstarter project in 2019, it was a radical addition to the hobby market. Not only was it significantly less expensive than some of its earliest competitors and popular machines of the time (like the Shapeoko and XCarve,) it introduced the use of leadscrews, which was (at least in our consideration) far superior to the use of belts.

Over the years, the LongMill was iterated with notable changes including:

  • Transitioning to using 3D printed structural parts to metal and injected molded parts
  • Custom aluminum extrusions
  • Introduction of T12 based power transmission systems
  • Introduction of gSender as the most advanced and intuitive hobby CNC control software
  • Integration of notable accessories such as the Vortex Rotary Axis, Autozero Touch Plate, and more
  • grblHAL and the SuperLongBoard, bringing next generation CNC electronics and control
  • Introduction of a 4ft wide format, allowing the use of full width (4ft) sheets

Over time, we’ve seen a lot of changes in the hobby CNC landscape. The first is most hobby CNC producers going upmarket, focusing on “prosumer” machines in the $3000-6000USD range in favour of entry level machines in the sub-$2000 range. This left the LongMill as one of the only mid-format hobby CNC machines in the market.

We also saw a big wave of Chinese hobby CNC brands like Foxalien and Sainsmart enter the market, allowing users to get a taste of CNCing for a few hundred dollars. This created a big gap in the market, where users could get a very entry level CNC machine for a small amount, or move up market to a machine that could be used for small scale production for a few thousand dollars. The LongMill sits somewhere between.

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Where does that leave the LongMill today? First, this presents a unique opportunity for the LongMill to combine the best of both worlds. The current design of the LongMill has not seen much change in the last 2 years. With access to new technologies and resources, we believe it’s time to implement advancements into a new version of the LongMill to make it relevant to the times.


Pricing

We will be lowering the price of the LongMill MK2.5. There is a market reason and strategic reason for this change. Over the last two years, we’ve seen a slow decline in LongMill sales. We believe that there are several factors to this, but the two main factors come down to competition and the price delta between the AltMill and the LongMill:

  1. We believe that the LongMill now competes more closely with entry level Chinese hobby machines rather than North American built hobby CNC machines, and thus we should adjust pricing to reflect this. 
  1. We’ve noticed the price difference between the AltMill and LongMill is small enough that most customers are choosing the AltMill instead.

The LongMill MK2.5 is still a fantastic entry-level CNC machine. We still have customers who actively use their LongMills, and regularly see examples of the MK1 versions being used on a daily basis too. We don’t know exactly how many LongMills are in the wild, but we’d estimate that there’s been nearly 10,000 shipped since the launch of the machine. However, to adapt to these external factors, we’re also making some changes.

New pricing for the LongMill MK2.5 will be available Oct 13, 2025. All machines and their variants will be reduced by $300CAD or $220USD, until supplies last.

We believe that these pricing changes make the LongMill a more competitive option in the current market, aligning with other, more direct competitors.

With regards to the strategic factor, we want to make some space for the new version of the LongMill. We’ve started prototyping some initial designs and want to start prepping for production early to mid next year. This means that we want to liquidate some or most of the existing stock of the current LongMill MK2.5.

What is the new LongMill?

In many ways, the new LongMill will be the same as the old LongMill, aiming to serve the same target demographic at a similar price point. However, the LongMill will be updated with all of the new technologies and development we’ve implemented between the LongMill and AltMill. 

We don’t have too many details to share at the moment, but keep an eye out near the end of the year for more info!

Future of the LongMill MK1, MK2 and MK2.5

Support for all prior generations will continue to be available in several different formats:

  • Wear components like the Delrin ACME nuts and v-wheels will continue to be available on our store
  • Cross compatibility with the SLB, motors and power supply across all generations of the LongMill will continue to allow for replacement options
  • All design generations of the LongMill will continue to be open source, which allows users to fabricate their own parts if necessary

We expect the new version of the LongMill to have a lot of similarities and shared parts, allowing some cross compatibility. However, we don’t expect there to be a simple or affordable upgrade path for the core structure of the machine.

Final thoughts

We’re excited to navigate through this new hobby CNC landscape. We’re excited to see this market grow and new competitors come into the space. With new developments and advancements we’ve made in the AltMill line, plus everything we learned from shipping thousands of LongMills, we’re excited to bring new advancements to a new line of beginner focused, entry level CNC machines.

September 2025 Production Updates

Here’s your Sept 2025 production updates!

AltMill 2×4 and 4×4

AltMill production has been moving forward at a breakneck speed, with us shipping out nearly 100 AltMills per week. We are now stocking up for Batch 6 units for Oct 2025.

We have been addressing issues that some of our new customers have faced, some of which frankly are a little embarrassing, like sending two left side rails instead of one left and one right.

We appreciate everyone’s patience as we get some of these things ironed out. The team has been working to put in the proper checks to ensure that things like this don’t get missed, both as we understand it can be frustrating for the customer to have to wait a little longer to get their machines together, as well as our time and cost to do the replacements.

A lot of this is housekeeping to get production tidied up and streamlined, and we expect the overall experience for the user to be improving as we go along.

We did take a short pause on shipping to wait on restocking for power supplies, however we are expecting them any day now and expect lead times to stay within 5-7 weeks for customers that ordered in August. Once we get these parts in, we’ll be able to ship out the next few hundred machines and get prepped for the next batch!

AltMill 4×8

We’re excited to have done our first round of test cuts with the first prototype of the AltMill 4×8. Want to follow along on the development process? Check out Ben’s videos! These will be a series of videos coming out every few weeks, so make sure to subcribe to our Youtube channel if you want to keep up to speed!

We are now deep diving into longer term stress testing for the 4×8. One of the key areas we’re digging into is the long term wear impact of the rack and pinion system. Some of the areas of consideration to improve longevity include:

  • Lubrication of the rack and pinon
  • Hardness of the rack and pinion components, and the impact of wear based on the difference of hardness between the rack and pinion
  • Teeth count, profile and shape of the pinon
  • Hardening methods including nitriding and carbourizing
Photos of rack comparison before and after
First cut on the 4×8

We have now ordered parts to build three beta machines that will have production parts and we should have of them to start by the end of the month.

Auto Tool Changer

A lot of progress on the ATC this month. Here’s a quick look at testing the software integration of the ATC.

A lot of new developments for the ATC system. We’ve now 95%-completed the mechanical design for the spindle and we’ve tested it to be powerful and reliable. A couple of features that come along with this include:

  • Manual mode button, allowing for tools to be changed by button press rather than with a programmed sequence
  • Status lights to indicate proper pressure before use

Some of the core focuses for this month have been with the tool rack, a couple of features developed or in development include:

  • Pivoting mechanism to prevent damage during crashes
  • De-dusting process to prevent dust and chips from getting caught in the spindle
  • Positioning and mounting to preserve work area on the machine
  • Tool length sensor

Also check out this video that shows off the early version of the ATC system!

AutoSpin T1

Last month we mentioned that we had put the router production on hold to resolve some issues around the certification. We are glad to say we’ve been able to work out the details and continue the production. We are in the process of recertification and expect it to be ready around the end of September. This is still in progress so we will have a more solid update by the next production update.

We’re tentatively expecting to complete production in early October. Our general plan right now is once we have our production units ready, we can open up units for pre-order after we’ve inspected the first batch of production units. If we stick to this timeline, we should see the new routers ready to ship in late November to early December.

Based on current estimates, here’s the general plan:

  • Receive updated certification mid-September
  • Receive first few units off production line end of September
  • Test first few units. If units work successfully, we will launch pre-orders
  • Production for approximately 2000 units completes early October; with shipping to our warehouse, we should expect to have units ready to ship by early December

We will continue to provide more info as we move forward, so stay tuned!

These are of course still tentative plans, and we will provide more news as time goes on.

110V 1.5KW ER20 Spindles and 220V 2.2KW ER20 Spindles

Both 110V and 220V spindles are now shipping! These are uncertified VFDs for the US market. These are shipping with AltMills (if ordered with machines) or have an approximately 3 week lead time currently.

We also have started shipping replacement certified VFDs to customers who have been waiting on them. More info in our blog post here: https://sienci.com/2025/08/12/everything-you-need-to-know-about-certified-vfds/. We are currently working on manufacturing for a new batch of certified VFDs to sell to the Canadian and international markets. We have now certified around 90 units and have started shipping them out to customers who are waiting on them. We are expecting to have these available to sale once we have completed shipping out the first batch.

Between the Racks Fireside Chat

For Waterloo Tech Week, we are hosting a small talk about hardware! Event will be Sept 11, from 6:30pm/

Learn more here: https://lu.ma/rxneke6j

Everything You Need to Know About Certified VFDs

Earlier this year, we were asked by the ESA to restrict the sales of VFDs within Ontario, Canada, until we had received certification. Since then, we have been working on a design of our VFDs to certify their use. We did not have to do any further certifications for the spindle as they were already certified.

The short answer of whether an electrical product needs certification or not is yes, or more officially, complying with CSA standards qualified by UL or equivalent. Certifying a spindle and VFD system ensures:

  • The system is tested to be “safe”, which takes into account factors like fire resistance, shock prevention, mechanical durability and more
  • Protection against liability in the chance of an issue arising from the device
  • Ability to be imported into certain regions

However, in practice, most spindles and VFDs sold in North America for hobby use do not carry a certification. In fact, based on our research, at the current moment, spindles and VFDs from Carbide 3D and PWNCNC, as well as Amazon, don’t have certifications. The only systems that carry the proper certification is Redline CNC, which describe themselves as the “industry’s first and only safety approved plug-and-play spindle kits”. 

As far as we understand, there is no specific requirement for hobby or home users to need certified spindle systems for the US*, especially if they are putting together their own systems which is why we have been able to keep selling to the US. For commercial use, insurance companies may require the electronics used to have certifications, either as a field inspection or with the use of certified equipment.

*Somewhat ironically, given that we are restricted from selling uncertified VFDs in Canada, Canadian customers have been purchasing other uncertified (perhaps less safe) spindles and VFDs instead from the US.

As a whole, I believe that it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to design and develop their products to ensure they are safe. Certification is a good representation of compliance of established standards designed by experts in the field. However, certification can cost thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars, on top of thousands of dollars in yearly inspections needed to keep the certification active. For a full certification of a product like a VFD, we could be looking at spending around $35,000 USD, plus a few thousand dollars per year to upkeep the certification. We believe that the cost restriction is a big barrier for most manufacturers to get full certification for their products. In fact, through this process we learned that our manufacturer of VFDs had received certification for the same VFDs that we currently offer a number of years ago, but due to cost reasons, let the certification lapse. One-time certification at the scale at which we operate also prohibits us from continuously improving our product to meet the changing needs and feedback from users.

There is a secondary option, called SPE-1000, which is a field certification, where an inspector can individually inspect electronics instead. This option is more practical at lower volumes, as we simply need to pay for the inspector’s time, so that the cost to inspect units would work out to only $30 a unit. The cost for this in the short run would be less than getting a full certification.

For the short term, we will offer both certified and uncertified systems to US customers once they are available. Canadian customers will only be able to purchase certified systems. In the long run, we will likely consolidate all of the systems so that all systems will have the same hardware, and have a price difference for models with the certification. In the future when the production volume gets large enough, it may end up being more effective to move from field certification to a different certification standard.

Design Differences

The new VFD comes with several changes considering improved safety and ease of use.

Ease of use improvements:

  • Pluggable spindle cable: the cable for the spindle is no longer wired in with a screw terminal but instead uses a plug on each end allowing for the user to easily connect and disconnect the cable without tools
  • Pluggable AC cable: like the spindle cable, rather than needing to use a screw terminal for the plug, the NEMA 5-15P style cables. Note that this cable must be rated for 15A (these are provided in the kit)
  • Pluggable RJ12 connector for controlling the spindle via RS485
  • Fuse is easily accessible and swappable
  • Switch allows for user to easily turn on and off their VFD

Safety related changes:

  • Components are tested for fire resistance, and all bear appropriate UL/CSA safety markings
  • Enclosure designed to prevent shock, with proper spacing and mechanical strength to prevent shorting
  • Proper safety warnings and stickers

Customers waiting on certified VFDs

Currently we have a small number of users waiting on certified VFDs within Canada. These are either people who ordered and received a spindle kit (uncertified), or ordered but are waiting for their kits to ship, before we took it down from the store. Customers had the option to return their kits for a refund or wait until we provided the certified version.

We’re currently assembling the first 100 units for the 110V 1.5KW, some which will go to the initial customers, and the remainder will be available to Canadian customers once the batch is complete.

We are working directly with these customers to issue the replacements.

Current Production

Along with the first 100 units, an additional batch of roughly 300-400 of 110V 1.5KW VFDs, and 300-400 of 220V 2.2KW VFDs are also being lined up for production. Whatever units we have left from the first batch will be available to the general public; the other units will be available once we have an expected ship date for everything else.

Pricing

Here’s a timeline and estimated sale price for each variant. Please note these are estimates only and may change – watch for emails and social posts for formal announcements over the next few weeks

Enclosed VFD refer to the certified versions

Unenclosed VFD refer to H100/uncertified VFDs

1.5kW ER20 with unenclosed VFD – $555 USD

2.2kW ER20 with unenclosed VFD – $700 USD

1.5kW ER20 with enclosed VFD – $650 USD

2.2kW ER20 with enclosed VFD – $790 USD

August 2025 Production Updates

This past July was a busy month. Here are August 2025 Production Updates!

AltMill 2×4 and 4×4

Probably the biggest news of the month: we had our batch of materials we were waiting on to continue shipping on time. It’s sort of funny how we talk about when a shipment is on schedule, because we’re so used to things being late, we say it’s “on time”. This is why were letting people know that there was a good chance that we would have to start shipping in August. However, given that all the materials came in July, we have already started shipping and customers may be seeing their machines a few weeks earlier starting July 11th. Over the last three weeks we’ve hit about a hundred machines shipping out per week.

Additionally, we have reduced our lead times down to around 5-7 weeks, and we’re expecting lead times to continue go down gradually as we clear the queue. If we’re on track with our shipping rates, we should get there at the end of August and for us to complete Batch 5 in the first week of October.

We’ve brought a few extra staff members and have continued to hire more people for production to prep materials to get out the door. Batch 6 production is now underway, with parts completing in October as well, hopefully in time for when we run out of parts in the previous batch.

We also recognize that we do have a couple housekeeping things that we need to tackle, including more resources for the AltMill maintenance and offering replacement parts on the store. Our team is continuing to work on that, especially as we continue to grow our community.

In other news, Mike has set up some automation in the print farm to help print the dust shoe parts with a little less human intervention. We’re currently working on the injection molded version to soon take over 3D printed shoes, but we expect the manufacturing process to take another few months to complete.

AltMill 4×8

Version 1 of the AltMill 4×8 was constructed this past month. This was to get a general idea of scale, assembly, and everything that we can’t from 3D modelling it on the computer. We took parts from the original AltMill 4×4 to build this prototype. We’re expecting to start testing the full machine in the next week or so. We’ll post some testing and project videos showing the new machine soon.

While the X axis of the AltMill 4×8 will be more or less the same as the 4×4, version 2 and the final version of the 4×8 will use different Y axis rails to support the rack and pinion hardware. Another set of dies and extrusions are being produced now and we are expecting these to be arriving sometime at the end of August. We also have some of the production version parts on order so that we can have potentially a small beta testing run before going into full production to iron out any bugs. Based on our current timelines, we should have these around the end of September.

We are also starting to work on how big our batches are going to be, since we’re expecting a lot of interest. However, we’re already quite packed in our current production space, so there’ll have to be a bit of extra planning involved.

Bengineer on the AltMill 4×8 V1 prototype
First Assembly of the V1 prototype

AutoSpin T1

Due to some issues with working with our supplier, we are not certain of what direction we will be taking this project. Over the last few months working with this supplier, we had some general small communication issues, however, we ran into an issue with the the way the router was certified. One of the key aspects of the design is the control cable and electronics to allow CNC controllers to control the speed of the router. However, in the official certification documents, this was not included. From our perspective, this is a critical part of the product, and without this part included in the certification, we open ourselves up to additional liability.

There are a couple of ways forward from here:

  • Let the current supplier properly certify with the correct specifications
  • Find a new supplier to work with
  • Put the project on the backburner

We’re still going back and forth with the supplier to determine how we want to move forward, but we expect the project to be delayed until we get this part back on track.

New (Larger) Bits Coming Soon

With the growing community of AltMill users, we’re also expecting to launch larger tooling soon. We are currently working on documentation and testing for a new batch of end mills that are more specifically designed for the AltMill. This includes larger diameter bits, surfacing tools, and more.

We are quite close to releasing a 2.2KW version of the spindle using ER20 collets, which will also play nicely with the new bits, more details for that to come as well.

New Spindles and VFDs

We have a couple new VFD and spindle kits coming down the pipeline. We’ll have a separate post and pricing for this in the next few weeks, but this includes:

  • 220V – 2.2KW ER20 Spindles (AltMill only)
  • 110V – 1.5KW ER20 Spindles (AltMill and LongMill)*

*We had initially stated that we didn’t recommend the ER20 spindles for the LongMill. The engineering team has let me know that we want to retract this statement, and also to provide some more context.

The spindle is NOT plug-and-play compatible for machines with the original LongBoard (MK1 and MK2). Support and resources are limited for implementing this set up. Please read this article for more details. Customers who have the LongMill MK2.5 can use the spindle.  

These kits are currently only available for customers outside of Canada. Kits certified for Canada are coming soon. More updates to come.

The 1.5KW ER20 spindle kit for the LongMill can be found here.

Working on assembly of our own VFDs

Close Loop Stepper Motor Kit

As we talked about in the last blog post, we had gotten a lot of feedback for interest in a “close-loop stepper motor kit”. We got nearly 400 respondents with a strong interest in this type of kit. Given the interest, we believe that this would be a viable kit for us to make available.

There are a couple of practical considerations before we move forward with this sort of kit:

  • There is a lot of documentation that needs to go into helping users set up their systems
  • We need to buy more inventory, which eats into the capital that we are already allocating to our AltMill production currently
  • We’re already working on several projects, including the ATC and the AltMill 4×8, which means that we need to consider how thin we’re spreading ourselves with the development

It’s likely that when we get to purchasing Batch 7 in around October, we’ll look again at ordering parts for the kit, or figure out some ways to work on this kit without overburdening our engineering resources in the meantime to get this kit available sooner rather than later.

Automatic Tool Changer

A lot of work continues to go into the ATC project, with a lot of focus in the software and user interface side of things.

We’ve also been ordering some more parts and doing some design work in July as well. We’ve ordered some more parts for this which should arrive in the coming weeks. We’ve now finalized the manifold design and electronics, leaving us with finalizing the design for the toolholder.

ATC Exchange

gControl Panel Computer

A small piece of exciting news, in July, we shipped our 1000th gControl Panel computer. Which was something that we were expecting to be a minor accessory has been a surprising success in our books. With the popularity, our team is working to offer more resources to help support users. If you haven’t checked out the latest video, here it is:

July 2025 Production Update

Hey everyone, here’s our July production updates.

If you haven’t checked out our warehouse tour, make sure to check it out here:

Cost, quality, speed?

While the lead times for newly released products, especially the AltMill, tend to be a sticking point for many customers, our process is intentional to provide products at the lowest cost and the highest quality possible. Long lead times is temporary, as once we’ve establish and mature our production process, the average lead time drops significantly. To learn more, check out our article here.

Average AltMill Order Completion Times by Month

AltMill 2×4 and 4×4

AltMills continue to ship to clear out the remaining materials from Batch 4. We are now waiting on some of our Batch 5 parts to arrive which are needed to continue shipping in July. Based on current shipment tracking data, we are expecting parts to arrive July 9th, but still have a chance to be delayed. Due to this uncertainty, plus time to destuff and sort parts, after Batch 4 is complete, there is a chance that machines will start shipping in August.

While we continue to wait for our next batch of parts, our team is continuing to pre-pack and assemble parts on hand so that we can ship remaining orders in the queue rapidly as soon as we have everything ready to ship. This means that the first few weeks of July won’t have much shipping out but as soon as the new parts arrive, we’ll be aiming to ship around a hundred AltMills per week.

We are expecting to have a strong shot at significantly reducing our lead times, because when the final parts for Batch 5 arrive, we will have more materials on hand than machines currently sold. However, we do expect demand to pick up further as from August we’ll be entering into our busy season.

grblHAL merge

For current and upcoming CNC users with the SLB or SLB-EXT, our team is currently working on a grblHAL merge. As of current, the AltMill is using a modified version of grblHAL that branched off into it’s own version a little more than a year ago, with machine specific features and modifications. This code merge is intended to merge all of the features we’ve developed, plus all of the new features and support in the latest main version of grblHAL together. Our goal in the future is to allow new versions of grblHAL compatible directly with the boards and users will be able to update using the web builder for different use and configurations of SLB or SLB-EXT.

Once this merge is complete, we should see some smaller improvements, such as the handling of various alarms and motion planning, as well as integrating better support for toolchanger workflow.

gSender 1.5.0

A new, overhauled version of gSender is now out, with improvements to the user interface and new features.

AltMill 4×8

First assembly of the Y axis

Development continues to move forward with the AltMill. As we alluded to in the previous update, our main development challenges currently revolve around improving the accuracy of the Y-axis system. After additional testing with several different gearboxes, we’re happy to announce that we’ve had acceptable results for the latest batch of gearboxes. We are currently working on improving the placement of the additional components to optimize for space efficiency.

For this month, we are expecting to complete a first stage full size prototype with incoming set of rails and additional parts. A couple of things in progress include:

  • An “eloquent” way for joining rails together accurately.
  • Continued design on improving the positioning of the gearbox.
  • Long term wear testing.

Automatic Tool Changer

Toolchanger development is moving along well. Some of the main development done in the past month focuses on improvements to the design of the pneumatic systems:

  • Testing with using different air compressors commonly available to the general public
  • Changes to the manifold to improve compactness
  • Testing of overall reliability (over +700 tool changes completed so far)

Certified VFDs

As we talked about in some of our previous updates, we’ve been working on building a certified version of the H100 VFD, since they are not certified for sale within Ontario. Since we have completed the certification, we are now waiting on parts to arrive to start shipping replacements to customers in Ontario new VFDs if they have opted in. We are expecting these to arrive mid to end of July.

Close Loop Stepper Motor and SLB-EXT Kit?

It’s been a pretty popular request, but perhaps an even more popular request recently for us to release the SLB-EXT and close loop stepper motors to the public. We primarily haven’t up to this point simply because we’re trying to hold onto them so that we don’t run out of them for the AltMill production.

I believe there are a couple of other factors playing into seeing some additional demand for this solution to be launched, which include:

  • Closure of OpenBuilds, which provided the popular “BlackBox” series of controllers
  • Production uncertainties around third party controller supply availability for some OEM manufacturers
  • Increasing popularity in grblHAL platform, DIY builds, and growth in new hobby CNC manufacturers

What are some things folks may expect to see with a kit like this?

  • Ability to retrofit close loop stepper motors to the LongMill family of machines*
  • Ability to retrofit close loop stepper motors to many, if not most hobby CNC machines on the market
  • A simplified option for DIY builders
  • The ability for other CNC manufacturers like us to use the same electronics platform across many different types of machines

And why would a kit like this be the ideal solution for these people?

  • The kit is already tested and proven on the AltMill CNC as they share the same components.
  • At an expected price point of around $500USD, one of the least, if not the least expensive complete kit of it’s type.
  • Compatibility with other accessories in our ecosystem, including gSender, gControl, AutoZero touch plate, and more
  • Open source, which means that companies and individuals can reproduce and modify source code and designs to fit their needs, regardless of whether Sienci Labs continues to exist or not.

So what’s next?

  • As of current, we are knee deep in sourcing for Batch 6 AltMill. A survey to determine demand would help us understand how many additional components we should order to support upcoming demand.
  • We need to determine what sort of resources and documentation to provide to allow users to retrofit the kit to their own machines.
  • We need to see what type of machines people are looking to retrofit, so that we can have proper wire and cable lengths on hand.

If you want to help, please feel free to answer the survey below!

Sienci Labs Approach to Handling Lead Times

As demand for the AltMill continues to grow, long lead times have been a sticking point for many customers either waiting for their machine to ship or considering a purchase. This article is designed to outline our philosophy and approach to company and production growth so that we can provide clarity on our goals and intentions for the longer term. This article will also show that long lead times are a temporary and transient part of our production process and intentional to allow us to provide the best value CNC machines on the market.

Disclaimer, I did my best to interpret the data as accurately and as representative as possible. However, it shouldn’t be used to estimate and predict future lead times, as things may change. Some outlier data may have been removed to better represent the average customer.

Historical Data

To outline the actual change in lead times customers have been experiencing, I’ve graphed data looking at the average wait time per customer, based on the month they ordered a machine versus the actual order completion date. This graph outlines the historical changes over time in lead time, showing a general downward trend for lead times. Please note that the dotted lines are estimates and may vary in real life. For more up to date and the best real world estimates on specific orders, please see our Order Status page.

AltMill (Launched March 2024)

LongMill (MK1, MK2, and MK2.5)

Why is this important to look at? First of all, lead times are initially long for machines when they are first launched. You can see large spikes at key points such as March/April 2024 for the AltMill, Oct 2019 for LongMill MK1, May/June 2022 for LongMill MK2, and LongMill MK2.5 in May 2024. Why do these large spikes exist?

  • Version changes and new machine launches are typically announced before the full production of the machines is complete. This means that machines aren’t ready to ship right away.
  • Lead times may be higher when demand is higher than expected, so initial batch sizes are smaller than demand, which makes parts availability a bottleneck.
  • Delays due to quality issues, shipping in of materials, and development of assembly processes typically happen at the beginning of each production run.

But of course, as production continues, matures, and scales up, quality and process issues are resolved, and our batch sizes grow, lead times trend down, as we can see for all machines.

Cost, quality, speed

Many of us are familiar with the “cost, quality, and speed triangle – choose two – idea.” To put things simply, we have always chosen cost and quality, because speed comes from consistent growth – as you’ll see as you read through this article.

Our company’s mission is to make CNC more accessible, and cost plays a major role in accessibility. Yes, in theory, we could build machines faster if we spend more and consequently passed those costs onto the consumer, but we chose not to because, in the long run, we can have all three: cost, quality and speed.

Here’s a graph showing the number of customers segmented by the number of weeks they waited for their LongMill:

You can see that the vast majority of customers wait less than 4 weeks. So yes, when we look at the lead time graph over time, we have some large variability, the number of customers actually impacted by long lead times are actually minimized by a certain number of factors:

  • While there is a large spike in orders after a product launch, overall demand is slowest at the start of each launch. I believe this is typical because not a lot of people outside of our community know about the product yet, or customers are waiting for reviews and other information to come out before making a purchase.
  • Due to the long initial wait times, we push away customers who either don’t want to tie up too much money for a long period of time; are impatient to get a CNC and go with another company; or prefer to wait when lead times are shorter.

We also see demand grow as:

  • Customers receive their machines and they share their positive experiences with the community.
  • We can serve customers who are not tolerant of waiting a long time for their machine to ship.

At the time of writing, the AltMill is still in the early stages, before we’re able to see a trend in having the majority of customers experiencing a shorter lead time. But, we’re slowly getting there, and we plan to get there as soon as we possibly can.

Here’s a current distribution for AltMill:

Focusing on long-term production over short-term gains

Growing production takes significant time and investment to scale. Here are some of the things that we work on over time.


Inventory: As a hardware company, we need materials to build and ship products. Not only do we need to purchase and stock the optimal quantity of parts, but we also need to forecast sales and production rates for individual components so that we can reduce the amount of inventory we sit on while ensuring we have parts on hand so that inventory shortages don’t cause delays in production. Scaling up inventory at the start of a new product can be difficult since we can’t entirely predict what the demand will be, plus it can take some time to accumulate new cash to purchase more materials. While under-purchasing can lead to longer lead times, over-purchasing could lead us to running out of money on hand to make payroll and cover other expenses, depending on changes in demand.

Production space: As we scale the number of machines we produce per month, we also need to allocate space for inventory and space for assembly. Scaling space can have several risks, with one of the main ones being making a long-term commitment to signing a lease (for us, we’re currently on a 5-year lease on our building). Regardless of whether we use the space or not, we’d be on the hook for paying for the space we sign up for. Typically, we also need to invest capital to build out the space to fit our needs, which could include electrical and purchasing racking and benches. Space also doesn’t come often or exactly as we need, and there may be a wait period for another tenant to move out, plus a negotiation period for rates and terms to be agreed upon.

Human resources: We require skilled labor in building and assembling machines, which takes time to hire and train. This not only takes time to interview and hire new candidates, but our senior staff also need to dedicate time outside of their production time to work with new members to get them up to speed. Automation and strategic outsourcing also play a role in the amount of human resources we need. Time is required to identify tasks that are done repeatedly which are best suited for automation or outsourcing, which means that production at the start of a new machine tend to require more hands on work.

Technical support and resource development: Building and shipping a product is only half the battle. We want to ensure every customer is able to succeed with our products as well, which is why we dedicate so much time to videos, tutorials, and resources to help users every step of the way. Additionally, our support staff need continual professional development to be familiar with our products. You can read more about why our resources are so important to our business model here.

Design changes and improvements: To improve yield, quality, ease of production, and ease of assembly, our engineering team continually looks for ways to improve the design of our products and work with manufacturers to make the best components possible. Small design changes that shave of 10 minutes of assembly time could lead to thousands of dollars saved over the long run in lower production costs and shorter lead times.


So, breaking things down, here’s a list of costs related to scaling production that could negatively impact the cost of products and prevent production from being as cost-efficient as possible:

  • Unused space means rent is being paid for unproductive space and utilities.
  • Overstocking of inventory leads to additional costs for storage, plus money being tied up in parts rather than being used for other productive purposes.
  • Being overstaffed means there may not be enough work to be done while overhead costs stay the same.
  • The quantity of products being sold may not be enough to cover the cost of engineering and development costs.

However, scaling too slowly may come with other risks and costs, including:

  • We give time for competitors to gain market share.
  • Customers have to purchase other options if the lead times don’t align with what they can accept.

But the costs and risks above only apply when demand is higher than what we can supply, which means that they can, eventually, be overcome. Hardware, as they say, is hard. Mistakes in the production process and scaling too quickly can rapidly get out of hand. For example, messing up on just one of approximately 140 unique parts that go into an AltMill could result in production stopping completely. And when some parts can take 3 or more months to produce and arrive, some mistakes could seriously jeopardize our lead times.

Ultimately, we could charge more, which would allow us to have production at a smaller scale and more easily cover the costs of mistakes, plus lower overall demand and the volume of machines we need to build, but I believe that this would lead us to divert our focus on actually building affordable and accessible CNC machines. At the end of the day, there are many options for CNC machines that have shorter lead times, but it will come at a higher cost or a compromise to performance. It’s up to the consumer to decide what they value most at the current moment. However, if we continue to follow our trend of slowly reducing our lead times down to our general goal of 2 weeks or less across all products, we can protect our position in the market by not only providing the best value CNC machines on the market, but also at the shortest lead times as well.

Feedback?

While these are the processes we’ve been following to this day, we’re always open to hearing from our community on what they think we can do to continue supporting our ecosystem. Does it make sense to raise our prices if we can deliver faster in the short term? Should we implement dynamic pricing? Feel free to let us know your thoughts!

June 2025 Production Update

Hey everyone, welcome to our June 2025 Production Updates. Here we go!

A lot of development continues to happen, so some of these are updates from previous blog articles. If you want more context, make sure to check out our blog for our monthly production updates.

Order Status Page

I’ve been seeing a bit of chatter about the Order Status page. I just want to reassure everyone that no one is skipping the line, unless you are a big-time content creator (at the current time, Hamilton Dilbeck and Ryan Drapela are the only people who have received their machines early for marketing purposes).

We get bribed a lot by individuals to skip the line. We will never accept these.

There can be discrepancies that make it look like the order of which machines are being shipped don’t look like they are in order. Here’s how that can happen.

  1. The specific variant of the order has a different shipping schedule. For example, the 2×4 and 4×4 AltMill are built on different schedules, but they are both on the order page.
  2. The order isn’t fully complete. If the order is partially shipped based on part availability, the order will not show as shipped. This can create gaps between each order on the list.
  3. The customer asked us to put their order on hold.

We do our best to ship based on the order of which they are placed. There can be some variation sometimes, for example, if we can batch the products together, so we build all of the 2x4s in one go for example, we can reduce the overall average time to ship units because we don’t have to go back and forth with setting up production stations constantly. While it may throw out the order a bit, overall we expect for people to get machines quicker this way, which I think is a reasonable tradeoff.

Tariffs

As referenced in the previous update, we had been experiencing a lot of shipments being turned away at the border. One of the changes in the process was that all shipments in a truck crossing the US must have customs pre-cleared before it can enter the country, and any truck that had even a single item without proper clearance would be turned away. The below email references issues causes by some 3rd party brokers which appears to be resolved recently.

Email note from UPS

Shipping seems to continue to be a bit of a mess, but generally speaking, the issues have reduced a lot since the tariff war. Fewer orders are getting shipped back, and more are clearing without issues.

Starting April 23, we’ve also re-updated our shipping system to note DDP for all US-bound shipments. I should also note that most US-bound shipments prior have also been changed to DDP as well. For those who don’t know, DDP (delivery, duty paid), designates the shipment to have any duties and fees charged to the shipper (us). We used to have DDP set up, but during the trade war, we changed it to DAP (delivered at place), which would have the receivers (you) pay duties and fees. Since we are able to clear pretty much all of the shipments without duties and tariffs, we’ve reverted to this. Some customers were being charged brokerage fees and tariffs, even though they shouldn’t be, and it seems to be happening to other folks, not just in our company. We are helping customers get refunds, but now that we have changed things to DDP, any refunds will be able to be processed just through us without customer intervention.

AltMill

First off, we’re excited to share that the AltMill MK2 assembly video is now available!

Some folks were also confused about what batch their order for the AltMill is in. For the customer, it should not matter because the machines between Batch 4 and 5 are the same, and we don’t have a specific delineation for orders between the batches. However, if you ordered your AltMill around mid-April, there is a good chance that your order is in Batch 5. We expect to complete shipping Batch 4 at the end of this month the start of June.

As mentioned in the last blog post, we expect Batch 5 to start shipping in July based on the arrival of additional components. Our team is working to update the order status page based on updated news on parts arrival as shipping dates approach. Please have patience as these days may vary a bit based on the continued news. We are continuing to pre-assemble parts to prepare for another large push of shipments in the next coming weeks when everything arrives.

We have started building some of the 2×4 AltMills as well. The shipping for these may be a bit sporadic since we need to switch back and forth with the 4x4s. This may contribute somewhat to the spottiness of shipping on the Order Tracking list as well.

We’ve brought on a number of new packing staff and implemented additional production hours towards clearing our queue. Michael and the rest of the production team have continued to accelerate our production significantly, with this past month having shipped around 180 AltMills. While it feels like we’re making little to no progress (perhaps it even looks like we’re slowing down), we’ve doubled our production volume in the past 6 months, which is a significant achievement for the team. Unfortunately, or perhaps not unfortunately, as we’ve accelerated shipping, we’ve been met with an accelerating volume of sales for the AltMill as well, offsetting our gains in scaling up production and where we are with decreasing lead times.

As mentioned in the previous update, we’re waiting on shipment of components for another 750 units, and our supply chain team is also working to prepare components for an additional 750 units to arrive in the fall. This is an aggressive amount of purchasing as we are working to eliminate parts availability as one of our production bottlenecks and prepare ourselves for the peak season for sales in the fall and winter.

VFD certification

Adding to last month’s news, we’re excited to announce that our first VFD was certified on May 5th and we are now going through the process for building a new batch.

If you ordered a spindle in Ontario and are still waiting on it to ship or are waiting on a replacement, then we will switch to this option automatically for no extra charge. For customers who are wanting to order a spindle for the Canadian market, these will be available as well, albeit at a slightly higher price than the non-certified option.

In somewhat good news, as we continue to work on the development of higher power spindles, we’re finding that we are able to build different variations while keeping the same casing and form factor, which we expect will make upgrades and replacements much easier in the long run. Additionally, since we know that our base design is compliant, we expect future safety approvals to be much faster and straightforward.

As of time of writing, we’ve started getting our first batch of sample components for our testing and finalizing some design and wiring processes as we prepare for our larger batch of manufacturing.

Auto Tool Changer

As we’ve alluded to previously, we’ve been working on a tool changer solution for the AltMill. While ATC is community supported, we currently don’t have official support and resources for this yet and likely a bit complicated for the average user.

We’ve now received several ATC spindles which we’ve been testing with different tool holder sizes and body types.

ATC on SmAltMill
ATC square body and round body on AltMill 2×4

Of course there is a ton of consideration being put into place as we continue developing an ATC solution, including:

  • What power spindle do users need
  • Placement of tools and toolholder
  • Toolholder fork design
  • Pneumatics requirements
  • Dust shoe compatibility
  • Software interface and user experience

At the end of the day, we want to make sure that we have a product easy to use and accessible to both beginner and advanced users, and while we could be putting out a product for the sake of it, we’re focusing a lot of effort in making a product traditionally quite complicated into something simple.

AltMill 4×8

We continue to work on AltMill 4×8 development. Want to help us make some design decisions? Check out our survey below:

Much of the work so far has been around improving the rack and pinion design. While we’ve made great progress already in the design, we’re trying to reduce backlash in the system as much as possible. This has been in the way of testing different systems such as direct drive, using a pulley system, and gears. Reducing backlash is important as it will affect the dimensional accuracy in parts, especially in the Y direction. We’re also researching and playing around with motor tuning design to optimize between performance and accuracy.

We’re also working on designing the machine to reduce the overall footprint, especially focusing on the stickout from the motors. Additionally, we’re also looking at optimizing the form factor and design of the machine to make sure that the ATC placement is optimal.

We’re expecting some of the prototype parts to arrive in June or July, which should allow us to build and test early stage prototypes, and we’ll continue to work on and test smaller scale versions over the coming weeks.

We’ve gotten a lot of questions on why we’re not using a rotating ball screw design. Simply put, a rotating ball screw design is more complicated and expensive, and since the ball screw needs to be one continual length, this makes shipping extremely difficult compared to rack and pinion. The fact of the matter is that most industrial CNC machines of this size use a rack and pinion. Although a rack and pinion design is not as accurate inherently, we don’t expect users to need as high levels of accuracy in a way that a ball screw is the only way to go. Just for context, we’re talking about a difference of dimensional accuracy of between the thickness of one or two sheets of paper. It isn’t a design we’ve completely eliminated, but in general, we believe that it’s drawbacks outweigh the advantages.

LongMill

We continue to ship LongMills consistently. To improve production efficiency, we are slightly increasing lead times to 7 to 10 days. We currently have parts in stock, however, to reduce the need to switch back and forth between production of the AltMill and LongMill, some days will be dedicated to LongMill production only so that we can stockpile completed machines and ship them as needed. This means that many if not most customers will get machines shipped sooner than the estimated lead time, but depending on the production schedule, it may take up to 10 days to ship.

AutoSpin T1 Router

The AutoSpin continues to make progress as we prepare for initial production. One thing we’re working on is further testing and resource development as we prep it’s use for common hobby CNC routers. We’ve found some small quirks for setup that we’ll make sure to address in the setup process for each machine. For example, users with a Onefinity machine will need to plug their router directly into an outlet rather than the relay controlled plug on some controllers.

We’re also working on the packaging and incorporating a couple important features, including containing basic information about the product, links, safety notes, while protecting the package. Additionally, to keep shipping costs as low as possible, we’re aiming to make packaging as compact as possible.

gControl Panel Computer

Production of another batch of 500 gControls have now completed and are awaiting shipment. We currently have around 70 more units, which means that it’s likely we’ll sell out of them before the new batch arrives. However, we don’t expect the delay to be more than a few weeks as the new batch should arrive shortly after the old one runs out.

Perhaps an exciting note to make is that gSender Edge (our early access version of gSender which eventually gets pushed out for the main version) now supports portrait mode. This means that users will be able to use their gControl computers in the portrait direction, just like the Masso controller. There are a few improvements that development is still working on, but features like “pinch to zoom” in the visualizer, have now been incorporated. If you’re interested in checking out gSender Edge, make sure to check out our Github.

In other news, Gilberto and the rest of the marketing team are working to release some new instructional videos to help users update, customize, and optimize their gControl experience, so keep an eye out for that soon!